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	<title>Comments on: ANC Round Up: The Great Jelleff Battle of 2010</title>
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		<title>By: New Jelleff Field Complete &#171;</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/02/02/anc-round-up-the-great-jelleff-battle-of-2010/#comment-3466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Jelleff Field Complete &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the light from pouring into the houses on that street. With the lights in place, the deal (which GM had plenty of substantive and procedural problems with) is a lot better for the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: esmith</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/02/02/anc-round-up-the-great-jelleff-battle-of-2010/#comment-1927</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can only say that after paying close attention to the ANC meeting, and back and forth prior and since, DPR, Evans and Maret come out looking bad. Prior to all of this I was worried what to do if our middle school aged child (since pre-k a DCPS student) was offered a coveted spot at Maret vs. a couple of other private schools for next fall, what a struggle it would be to decide!   Not any more.  The sense of entitlement of the parent of 3 Maret kids alongside the school director&#039;s &quot;let them eat cake&quot; attitude are a real turn-off.  Behind the scenes/no bid is unacceptable and needs to be thrown out, for the sake of ALL of the kids!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only say that after paying close attention to the ANC meeting, and back and forth prior and since, DPR, Evans and Maret come out looking bad. Prior to all of this I was worried what to do if our middle school aged child (since pre-k a DCPS student) was offered a coveted spot at Maret vs. a couple of other private schools for next fall, what a struggle it would be to decide!   Not any more.  The sense of entitlement of the parent of 3 Maret kids alongside the school director&#8217;s &#8220;let them eat cake&#8221; attitude are a real turn-off.  Behind the scenes/no bid is unacceptable and needs to be thrown out, for the sake of ALL of the kids!!</p>
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		<title>By: East Georgetowner</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/02/02/anc-round-up-the-great-jelleff-battle-of-2010/#comment-1844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[East Georgetowner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As DenJames notes, due to government ownership, the park will now have to operate on a public basis -- which means the neighbors can look forward to the kind of loud events that are currently held at the rec center on 25th street, complete with 6 foot tall speakers and booming bass music that can be heard all the way into Georgetown.  Maybe the plan supporters who live nearby will not be so happy about the plan when that happens.  

And, while I appreciate the clarification that it was $20M for 3 parks and still doubt that a DC-managed property will be well run, I nevertheless respectfully submit that the argument for spending that money for children in underprivileged parts of the city is far stronger than for having spent that money in Georgetown so that affluent private school children could largely use it. It smacks of entitlement, and invoking the &quot;it is for kids&quot; argument does not solve the problems here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As DenJames notes, due to government ownership, the park will now have to operate on a public basis &#8212; which means the neighbors can look forward to the kind of loud events that are currently held at the rec center on 25th street, complete with 6 foot tall speakers and booming bass music that can be heard all the way into Georgetown.  Maybe the plan supporters who live nearby will not be so happy about the plan when that happens.  </p>
<p>And, while I appreciate the clarification that it was $20M for 3 parks and still doubt that a DC-managed property will be well run, I nevertheless respectfully submit that the argument for spending that money for children in underprivileged parts of the city is far stronger than for having spent that money in Georgetown so that affluent private school children could largely use it. It smacks of entitlement, and invoking the &#8220;it is for kids&#8221; argument does not solve the problems here.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Morgan Steiner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leslie Morgan Steiner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand and agree that as a Maret board member, alum, and parent of three kids at the school, naturally I am biased in favor of a place I have had deep connections to for over 30 years.  

However, I&#039;m also a Georgetown resident, a native of DC who grew up using Jelleff on a weekly basis, and an alum/parent of DC public schools (all four sibs in my family went to Horace Mann and my kids went to Hyde Elementary and Fillmore).

So I have more than one bias, which I hope gives perspective that balances my Maret leanings.  I am strongly in support of Maret reinvesting in Jelleff for the good of all kids who use the facility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand and agree that as a Maret board member, alum, and parent of three kids at the school, naturally I am biased in favor of a place I have had deep connections to for over 30 years.  </p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m also a Georgetown resident, a native of DC who grew up using Jelleff on a weekly basis, and an alum/parent of DC public schools (all four sibs in my family went to Horace Mann and my kids went to Hyde Elementary and Fillmore).</p>
<p>So I have more than one bias, which I hope gives perspective that balances my Maret leanings.  I am strongly in support of Maret reinvesting in Jelleff for the good of all kids who use the facility.</p>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leslie,
You are presenting a false choice. The decision is not whether we should have facilities for children, it is whether we should provide those facilities with the optimal circumstances or not. The only way to know whether it is optimal is to get a second and a third opinion through an open process. This is a very simple concept, but as a Maret board member it is obviously too inconvenient for you to admit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie,<br />
You are presenting a false choice. The decision is not whether we should have facilities for children, it is whether we should provide those facilities with the optimal circumstances or not. The only way to know whether it is optimal is to get a second and a third opinion through an open process. This is a very simple concept, but as a Maret board member it is obviously too inconvenient for you to admit.</p>
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		<title>By: Dens James</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/02/02/anc-round-up-the-great-jelleff-battle-of-2010/#comment-1841</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dens James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leslie,

Such a sense of entitlement for Maret and DPR to redevelop the Jelleff  field and pool with no open bidding process that may well have yielded a better overall deal for Jelleff and its users. And no involvement of those of us who&#039;ve been looking out for this facility for so many years, despite benign neglect from Jelleff&#039;s former parent organization, the Boys &amp; Girls Clubs of Greater Washington. 

And let&#039;s not forget that this now-public facility will need to serve folks the way most DC rec centers do - sometimes on a casual basis, other times programmatic, but you can bet there will be public demand. Where will those hours come from if Maret takes so much of the most sought-after times?

And it&#039;s time someone set the record straight about how Jelleff, Clubhouse #10 in Ward One and the Eastern Branch on Capitol Hill in Ward 6 became DC property. CM Evans, working with the administration, got a line item of $10 mil put into the Mayor&#039;s 2009 budget proposal. Sounds good, right? Well, as a stand-alone item it was going nowhere. There just wouldn&#039;t be the votes on the Council to buy a club in the well-to-do part of town with no balancing purchase in other, less well-to-do parts of town. CM Harry Thomas&#039; Committee on Libraries, Parks &amp; Recreation disapproved that line item and re-programmed the dollars back into rec center capital projects in other parts of town.

Members of the Friends of Jelleff allied with other community members from neighborhoods around the other clubs, including Clubhouse #11 in Ward 8, which was also on the block for sale. Activists from all 4 neighborhoods helped lobby the Council to purchase all 4 clubs for $20 mil. We got Chairman Gray&#039;s attention. He worked with his colleagues to form a majority on the Council who would, after negotitations with BGCGW, vote to purchase the 3 clubs for $20 mil. Clubhouse #11 was sold by BGCGW during this time and thus was left out of the deal. Our goal was to save recreation facilities for children all over the city. I believe the vote on the authorizing legislation was unanimous and for that I thank the Council. And Ward One Councilmember Jim Graham was very helpful in bringing the various activists together and engaging BGCGW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie,</p>
<p>Such a sense of entitlement for Maret and DPR to redevelop the Jelleff  field and pool with no open bidding process that may well have yielded a better overall deal for Jelleff and its users. And no involvement of those of us who&#8217;ve been looking out for this facility for so many years, despite benign neglect from Jelleff&#8217;s former parent organization, the Boys &amp; Girls Clubs of Greater Washington. </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget that this now-public facility will need to serve folks the way most DC rec centers do &#8211; sometimes on a casual basis, other times programmatic, but you can bet there will be public demand. Where will those hours come from if Maret takes so much of the most sought-after times?</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s time someone set the record straight about how Jelleff, Clubhouse #10 in Ward One and the Eastern Branch on Capitol Hill in Ward 6 became DC property. CM Evans, working with the administration, got a line item of $10 mil put into the Mayor&#8217;s 2009 budget proposal. Sounds good, right? Well, as a stand-alone item it was going nowhere. There just wouldn&#8217;t be the votes on the Council to buy a club in the well-to-do part of town with no balancing purchase in other, less well-to-do parts of town. CM Harry Thomas&#8217; Committee on Libraries, Parks &amp; Recreation disapproved that line item and re-programmed the dollars back into rec center capital projects in other parts of town.</p>
<p>Members of the Friends of Jelleff allied with other community members from neighborhoods around the other clubs, including Clubhouse #11 in Ward 8, which was also on the block for sale. Activists from all 4 neighborhoods helped lobby the Council to purchase all 4 clubs for $20 mil. We got Chairman Gray&#8217;s attention. He worked with his colleagues to form a majority on the Council who would, after negotitations with BGCGW, vote to purchase the 3 clubs for $20 mil. Clubhouse #11 was sold by BGCGW during this time and thus was left out of the deal. Our goal was to save recreation facilities for children all over the city. I believe the vote on the authorizing legislation was unanimous and for that I thank the Council. And Ward One Councilmember Jim Graham was very helpful in bringing the various activists together and engaging BGCGW.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Morgan Steiner</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/02/02/anc-round-up-the-great-jelleff-battle-of-2010/#comment-1840</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leslie Morgan Steiner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, no disrespect taken!

But I&#039;m pretty sure that kids care far more about having a wonderful, safe place to meet friends and play than some vague criticism of government.  Unfortunately no one on the ANC seemed to be thinking too hard about kids&#039; perspectives.

And by the way, DC was a great place to grow up, despite Marion Barry (who I must admit, taught me quite a few hard lessons about government and elected officials that I will never, ever forget)!  

Yes, DC inured me to some aspects of government.  But DC also exposed me, as a kid, to many wonderful ways of changing the world -- through the many committed writers, teachers, coaches, politicians and ordinary public servants who filled my days...Plus we had wonderful playgrounds such as Jelleff, the blacktop at Horace Mann, Battery Kemble Park and Maret&#039;s old rock-and-stick soccer field.  

I think DC remains a fantastic place to be a kid.  I was lucky to grow up here and consider my kids lucky to be growing up here.  I hope that Jelleff and other such idylls stay a part of DC childhoods for many years to come.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, no disrespect taken!</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m pretty sure that kids care far more about having a wonderful, safe place to meet friends and play than some vague criticism of government.  Unfortunately no one on the ANC seemed to be thinking too hard about kids&#8217; perspectives.</p>
<p>And by the way, DC was a great place to grow up, despite Marion Barry (who I must admit, taught me quite a few hard lessons about government and elected officials that I will never, ever forget)!  </p>
<p>Yes, DC inured me to some aspects of government.  But DC also exposed me, as a kid, to many wonderful ways of changing the world &#8212; through the many committed writers, teachers, coaches, politicians and ordinary public servants who filled my days&#8230;Plus we had wonderful playgrounds such as Jelleff, the blacktop at Horace Mann, Battery Kemble Park and Maret&#8217;s old rock-and-stick soccer field.  </p>
<p>I think DC remains a fantastic place to be a kid.  I was lucky to grow up here and consider my kids lucky to be growing up here.  I hope that Jelleff and other such idylls stay a part of DC childhoods for many years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: EastGeorgetowner</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/02/02/anc-round-up-the-great-jelleff-battle-of-2010/#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EastGeorgetowner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I don&#039;t have kids, and don&#039; t use the  park, I can&#039;t be criticized as either for or against this deal on that basis! But I will add to the debate that I fail to see why having the DC goverment purchase and own the land, as opposed to private parties, is at all a good thing; the land would almost certainly have been better managed by private parties than the DC goverment will manage it, and this episide over the RFP is perhaps just the first of many examples on that score.  

Moreover, I thought DC was in a budget crisis, requiring higher taxes on citizens -- and yet Jack Evans could find $20M (of my taxpayer dollars) to buy the land? So, I am not sure why having DC step in was such a great idea in the first place, regardless of who eventually partnered with the government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I don&#8217;t have kids, and don&#8217; t use the  park, I can&#8217;t be criticized as either for or against this deal on that basis! But I will add to the debate that I fail to see why having the DC goverment purchase and own the land, as opposed to private parties, is at all a good thing; the land would almost certainly have been better managed by private parties than the DC goverment will manage it, and this episide over the RFP is perhaps just the first of many examples on that score.  </p>
<p>Moreover, I thought DC was in a budget crisis, requiring higher taxes on citizens &#8212; and yet Jack Evans could find $20M (of my taxpayer dollars) to buy the land? So, I am not sure why having DC step in was such a great idea in the first place, regardless of who eventually partnered with the government.</p>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/02/02/anc-round-up-the-great-jelleff-battle-of-2010/#comment-1834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leslie, with all due respect, the message that this agreement is sending to our kids is that good government is a waste of time and as long as you can describe a deal as providing some benefits, the manner in which it was reached and the opportunities that were lost simply don&#039;t matter. That was pretty much the motto of the Barry administration.

Maybe I shouldn&#039;t be surprised that a DC-native is inured to habits of bad government, but I would hope that it would be one tradition that we don&#039;t pass on to our children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie, with all due respect, the message that this agreement is sending to our kids is that good government is a waste of time and as long as you can describe a deal as providing some benefits, the manner in which it was reached and the opportunities that were lost simply don&#8217;t matter. That was pretty much the motto of the Barry administration.</p>
<p>Maybe I shouldn&#8217;t be surprised that a DC-native is inured to habits of bad government, but I would hope that it would be one tradition that we don&#8217;t pass on to our children.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Roffman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Roffman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My dad always used to tell me, &quot;Son, don&#039;t pass up a good thing.&quot; If someone wants to put down a state-of-the-art soccer field, for soccer kids, I say go for it. Most of the Maret children are DC children, so that is who will benefit, along with all the other DC children who will play on the field. And if the city will fix the pool, and the basketball league of Jelleff Boys &amp; Girls Club can continue, I think it is a good thing for the children. And I&#039;m a baseball coach, who usually doesn&#039;t care about soccer at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad always used to tell me, &#8220;Son, don&#8217;t pass up a good thing.&#8221; If someone wants to put down a state-of-the-art soccer field, for soccer kids, I say go for it. Most of the Maret children are DC children, so that is who will benefit, along with all the other DC children who will play on the field. And if the city will fix the pool, and the basketball league of Jelleff Boys &amp; Girls Club can continue, I think it is a good thing for the children. And I&#8217;m a baseball coach, who usually doesn&#8217;t care about soccer at all.</p>
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