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	<title>Comments on: ANC Round-Up: Back From the Beach Edition</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Roffman</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/06/02/anc-round-up-back-from-the-beach-edition/#comment-3277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Roffman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the murals of Byron Peck that grace different neighborhoods in the city. If the eagle mural is not appropriate for Georgetown, perhaps he could come back with design more in keeping with Georgetown today.........say a giant cupcake and ice cream cone with lots of sprinkles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the murals of Byron Peck that grace different neighborhoods in the city. If the eagle mural is not appropriate for Georgetown, perhaps he could come back with design more in keeping with Georgetown today&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;say a giant cupcake and ice cream cone with lots of sprinkles.</p>
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		<title>By: Wisconsin Avenue Streetcar Coalition</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/06/02/anc-round-up-back-from-the-beach-edition/#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wisconsin Avenue Streetcar Coalition]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cynthia-- 

Here&#039;s are some photos from the DC Streetcar Open House held last month at the site of the former Convention Center.  

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=181478   (photos courtesy of Beyond DC)

The streetcars offer lower (i.e. easier) boarding and spacious aisles, more like riding metro rail than riding a bus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia&#8211; </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s are some photos from the DC Streetcar Open House held last month at the site of the former Convention Center.  </p>
<p><a href="http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=181478" rel="nofollow">http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=181478</a>   (photos courtesy of Beyond DC)</p>
<p>The streetcars offer lower (i.e. easier) boarding and spacious aisles, more like riding metro rail than riding a bus.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cynthia Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the idea of streetcars in Georgetown.  We took two in Tampa last month, and it was really nifty.... it gave a feeling of history to to older parts of the city we were exploring.  And yes, our other choice was to drive.  Driving a rental car in a city we didn&#039;t know seemed like a really silly idea when we saw the beautiful, cost-effective alternative.  Can anyone direct me to a photo of what the DC/Georgetown streetcars might look like?  The one we rode in Tampa was gorgeous, gleaming wood throughout.  Very retro in a very good way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of streetcars in Georgetown.  We took two in Tampa last month, and it was really nifty&#8230;. it gave a feeling of history to to older parts of the city we were exploring.  And yes, our other choice was to drive.  Driving a rental car in a city we didn&#8217;t know seemed like a really silly idea when we saw the beautiful, cost-effective alternative.  Can anyone direct me to a photo of what the DC/Georgetown streetcars might look like?  The one we rode in Tampa was gorgeous, gleaming wood throughout.  Very retro in a very good way.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgetown ANC won&#8217;t object to streetcar wires on K Street &#171; BeyondDC Newsfeed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georgetown ANC won&#8217;t object to streetcar wires on K Street &#171; BeyondDC Newsfeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Georgetown ANC adopted a resolution saying they support streetcars on K Street (including wires) so long as there are no dedicated lanes and no parking is removed. The ANC resolution further endorses streetcars on Wisconsin and M Streets, with the same provisions, except that they oppose overhead wires at those locations.      &gt; Georgetown Metropolitan      &gt; Full story [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Georgetown ANC adopted a resolution saying they support streetcars on K Street (including wires) so long as there are no dedicated lanes and no parking is removed. The ANC resolution further endorses streetcars on Wisconsin and M Streets, with the same provisions, except that they oppose overhead wires at those locations.      &gt; Georgetown Metropolitan      &gt; Full story [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fully Agree with Ken -- as a Gtown resident the one downer to Georgetown is the lack of accessability to local transportation options.  The ANC/CAG and others should see streetcars (and I might add the bikesharing proposals) as CENTRAL to the success of local businesses and for the future of the neighboorhood.  We still have some NIMBYism&#039;s here in Georgetown, but that is changing rapidly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fully Agree with Ken &#8212; as a Gtown resident the one downer to Georgetown is the lack of accessability to local transportation options.  The ANC/CAG and others should see streetcars (and I might add the bikesharing proposals) as CENTRAL to the success of local businesses and for the future of the neighboorhood.  We still have some NIMBYism&#8217;s here in Georgetown, but that is changing rapidly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Archer</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/06/02/anc-round-up-back-from-the-beach-edition/#comment-2870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Archer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My main question is why some people in the ANC and CAG aren&#039;t engaging streetcars as a boon for Georgetown that should be central to their agendas.  For example, when Chairman Gray threatened to cut funding for streetcars last Wednesday, why didn&#039;t the ANC and CAG officials contact Gray and Evans&#039; offices urging them to keep streetcar funding?  That they didn&#039;t shows that they generally don&#039;t see streetcars as a boon for Georgetown.

At least 30-40% of streetcar riders will be people who otherwise would have driven to Georgetown.  That data is consistent in other cities with streetcars, and there is absolutely no reason to think streetcars in Georgetown will be different.  If anything, it will be higher because 13 blocks of the route into Georgetown (9th to 22th streets) will be dedicated streetcar lanes.

Georgetowners are beginning to understand this, and I look forward to the day when the ANC and CAG make Georgetown streetcars a central part of their agendas for Georgetown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main question is why some people in the ANC and CAG aren&#8217;t engaging streetcars as a boon for Georgetown that should be central to their agendas.  For example, when Chairman Gray threatened to cut funding for streetcars last Wednesday, why didn&#8217;t the ANC and CAG officials contact Gray and Evans&#8217; offices urging them to keep streetcar funding?  That they didn&#8217;t shows that they generally don&#8217;t see streetcars as a boon for Georgetown.</p>
<p>At least 30-40% of streetcar riders will be people who otherwise would have driven to Georgetown.  That data is consistent in other cities with streetcars, and there is absolutely no reason to think streetcars in Georgetown will be different.  If anything, it will be higher because 13 blocks of the route into Georgetown (9th to 22th streets) will be dedicated streetcar lanes.</p>
<p>Georgetowners are beginning to understand this, and I look forward to the day when the ANC and CAG make Georgetown streetcars a central part of their agendas for Georgetown.</p>
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		<title>By: Wisconsin Avenue Streetcar Coalition</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wisconsin Avenue Streetcar Coalition]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I generally agree with the assessment of the ANC&#039;s streetcar resolution and overall it is positive.  The ANC needs to maintain some balance, however, on issues such as overhead wires and possible elimination of curbside parking.  

First DC&#039;s streetcars can hold up to 143 passengers.  Each city block has space to accommodate approximately twelve cars.  If you figure 1.2 passengers per vehicle this is 15 passengers per block of curbside parking.  I would gladly trade a streetcar for this possible loss of parking, especially when you consider many passengers will ride a streetcar who wouldn&#039;t ride a bus, enhancing mobility.  Additionally, I think it is unlikely that it is Georgetown/Burleith residents that currently use most of the curbside parking.  The commercial strip of Wisconsin Avenue and K Street are both a short walk for Georgetown residents.  Instead, I would expect that it is mostly MD/VA residents who drive to Georgetown and cruise for curbside parking.

As for the overhead wires, where is the concern that overhead traffic signals (which are much bigger than the wires) threaten views in Georgetown?  As Scott Kubly from DDOT showed people last night, the cables DDOT intends to use are about the diameter of a pen.  Certainly, the will not ruin any views.   Any obstruction from these wires needs to be weighed against the reduction in auto use that streetcars will bring, improving air quality in Georgetown and the broader DC region as the amount of emissions and particulate matter is reduced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally agree with the assessment of the ANC&#8217;s streetcar resolution and overall it is positive.  The ANC needs to maintain some balance, however, on issues such as overhead wires and possible elimination of curbside parking.  </p>
<p>First DC&#8217;s streetcars can hold up to 143 passengers.  Each city block has space to accommodate approximately twelve cars.  If you figure 1.2 passengers per vehicle this is 15 passengers per block of curbside parking.  I would gladly trade a streetcar for this possible loss of parking, especially when you consider many passengers will ride a streetcar who wouldn&#8217;t ride a bus, enhancing mobility.  Additionally, I think it is unlikely that it is Georgetown/Burleith residents that currently use most of the curbside parking.  The commercial strip of Wisconsin Avenue and K Street are both a short walk for Georgetown residents.  Instead, I would expect that it is mostly MD/VA residents who drive to Georgetown and cruise for curbside parking.</p>
<p>As for the overhead wires, where is the concern that overhead traffic signals (which are much bigger than the wires) threaten views in Georgetown?  As Scott Kubly from DDOT showed people last night, the cables DDOT intends to use are about the diameter of a pen.  Certainly, the will not ruin any views.   Any obstruction from these wires needs to be weighed against the reduction in auto use that streetcars will bring, improving air quality in Georgetown and the broader DC region as the amount of emissions and particulate matter is reduced.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Archer</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/06/02/anc-round-up-back-from-the-beach-edition/#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Archer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: Corcoran

Chairman Lewis explained that no proposal had been made by Eastbanc, and that the ANC cannot take action on projects based on what might be in them and must wait for a proposal.  

This seemed to frustrate some residents who showed up wanting to convince Eastbanc to not complete their purchase because of community opposition to developing on the parking lot and playground.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Corcoran</p>
<p>Chairman Lewis explained that no proposal had been made by Eastbanc, and that the ANC cannot take action on projects based on what might be in them and must wait for a proposal.  </p>
<p>This seemed to frustrate some residents who showed up wanting to convince Eastbanc to not complete their purchase because of community opposition to developing on the parking lot and playground.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayce</title>
		<link>http://georgetownmetropolitan.com/2010/06/02/anc-round-up-back-from-the-beach-edition/#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GREAT recap - thanks for your diligent work to keep us all up to speed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT recap &#8211; thanks for your diligent work to keep us all up to speed!</p>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SSC: I literally came right from the airport to the meeting and missed the first 20 minutes or so. I think I caught the end of the discussion on the Fillmore School, but I got the sense that the ANC was saying that there was nothing they could do at this early stage. Others who were there can correct me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSC: I literally came right from the airport to the meeting and missed the first 20 minutes or so. I think I caught the end of the discussion on the Fillmore School, but I got the sense that the ANC was saying that there was nothing they could do at this early stage. Others who were there can correct me.</p>
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